i mean, look, six months ago, north carolina voted by over 61% to protect marriage as the union of a man and a woman. of course, there were the four deep blue liberal statings that voted to redefine marriage, but that's an indication of the future of the you country. there is no constitutional right to redefine marriage. our founding fathers didn't see it that way, the last supreme court decision, the united states supreme court said there was no federal question here. so this is essentially making the law up as you go along, it is reading into the constitution. i do not believe the united states supreme court is going to launch another culture war, just like row v. wade did not end the abortion debate, creating a right to redefine marriage will not end the debate, tell exacerbate it. >> elizabeth, you and i know there are some wonky things before the court, do you think they resolve those and get to the merits of the two cases? or do you think we get hung up on something that stops short of a pronouncement on the issue of gay marriage? >> i don't think we will have a good since of t